I have been tying the double fisherman’s knot in webbing and it seems to hold very well, but now when reading about the internets it appears that the water knot is the recommended webbing knot.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me why the water knot is so beloved, and if the fisherman’s knots are dangerous with webbing and why.

I never use a double fishermans in webbing, always go with a water knot. This is what all the books and pros say too. I would imagine this is because the double fisherman knot cannot be dressed very well with webbing, and it could slip through due to twists. The water knot is much neater with webbing and simpler to tie.

7 Meinungen für “Is the double fisherman’s a no no for webbing when climbing?”

  1. Cody sagt:

    I never use a double fishermans in webbing, always go with a water knot. This is what all the books and pros say too. I would imagine this is because the double fisherman knot cannot be dressed very well with webbing, and it could slip through due to twists. The water knot is much neater with webbing and simpler to tie.
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  2. BeachBum818 sagt:

    Correct, the water knot is the go to knot when it comes to tying knots in webbing. The water knot keeps the webbing flat, whereas the double fishermans cinches the webbing.
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    Eagle Scout
    Former Rock Climbing Instructor

  3. DailyClimbingTips.com sagt:

    I’ve used the double fisherman’s before for webbing on several tied slings and have had no problems. That knot is SOLID! I don’t know the figures for how the different knots affect the strength of the webbing, so I’m not sure which knot is technically stronger, though here’s an interesting link discussing water knot testing and failure: http://www.caves.org/section/vertical/nh/46/waterknot.html

    Now, having said that, I use the water knot now on all of my tied webbing. It just creates a more compact knot. If you check the knot from time to time, you won’t have any problems with it slipping or anything.
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    Personal experience.

  4. Rahul D sagt:

    yyup
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  5. Lizard King sagt:

    I don’t believe there is anything wrong with the double fisherman’s (or even a single fisherman’s) knot for webbing other than bulk. In fact, there has been discussion about being sure water knots are tight because a few people have found them very loose when not loaded.
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  6. Don sagt:

    Few things are a no-no unless there’s a better way. The water knot is a better way. Therefore the double fisherman’s wouldn’t be a good choice. Strength of webbing and cord is significantly reduced when put under load over a small diameter turn. Like most knots, the water knot does significantly reduce the strength of the webbing, but because it can be neatly done with fewer tight turns than a double fisherman, it is the stronger, more-preferred method. Also, a water knot can be more thoroughly inspected for damage. Much of the webbing in a double fishermans knot is hidden, and can’t be inspected well. Save the double fisherman’s knot for cordage.
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  7. anuvadave sagt:

    There is a reason its called the tape knot - its used for tying tape!!
    Knots have been developed over time for specific purposes.
    The tape knot has been the time tested standard, it works well for alot of reasons.
    Its easy to ‘dress’ (neaten)
    its a flat knot - doesnt squash the tape too much
    Its simple to tie.

    A dbl fishermans would be much harder to dress, which is crucial for a knots strength & minimizes slippage.

    I have used other knots to join tape so they are easier to untie once loaded, but i would not use them for climbing where ppls lives depend on it.

    as always make sure you double check with someone that youre tying the knot correctly before using it.
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